The Ironsong Tribe

Bloodbound Wrote:I don't see why this is considered so hard. I went with a pug once

:banghead:

Bloodbound, have you been through all of Zul'Aman, or just the first boss?

We Killed bear and Lynx and almost Killed the eagle and by almost I mean we had him at 1%. But I was mearly stateing an observation that everyone says its really hard and then in my personal experience it isn't. I mean yea its a little rushed but didn't seem much different than ZG "Learn this dance and poof there's a dead boss".

To be perfectly honest, those three bosses are cake compared to the rest, and with the timed event it is a lot harder. As a dpser your job also has the most wiggleroom, whereas if you had a tank who wasn't completely geared or wasn't on his game you would not go far.

Then again, the dps while, doing the timed event and the last two bosses, need to be really on their game and have good gear to boot. Do what you want I guess, but as for me I like to have a group that is prepared for a place (but may not know the fights yet). I was done farming the first couple of bosses the second week Zul'Aman was out.

BB, I'm honestly glad you got a chance to go, but you're doing folks a disservice by contradicting the opinions of people with experience there. What you're saying is pretty much like saying Kara is easy because you beat Attumen and Moroes with 'only a few wipes', having never seen anything past Curator. You've been to the instance once, and have downed the easiest two of six bosses.

Like Eflu said, Bear (Nalorakk) and Lynx (Halazzi) are the two "easy" bosses there (meaning they're not much harder than Prince, as long as you have one *good* bear tank and one *good* warrior/paladin tank). Eagle isn't much harder, although a PUG getting him to 1% is quite good, congrats definitely deserved there. Dragonhawk is hard, and is the first serious coordination check in the instance. Most raids will find him tough for at least a few nights of attempts. Malacrass is very, very hard, and blocked my main raid for around a month iirc. Zul'jin is also quite hard, although not bad if you're beating Malacrass consistently and your players have very good coordination.

There's also the timed event, which is where most of the good loot comes from, to be frank, at least pre-Malacrass. To get the 3 timed chests, you need to kill all but one animal boss within 45 minutes. My main ZA raid (I usually go with three different raids each week) has been hitting the place every week for four months, is solidly geared in SSC/ZA gear, and we still sometimes miss the third chest.

If there's still room, I'd like to bring Sreng in.

Here is what I have so far for this Sunday March 9:

Tanks:
Kosath
Amato (?)

Healers:
Jabadue
Erudan

DPS:
Eonah
Grazak
Dispaya
Bloodbound
Sreng
Coranda(?)

Coranda and Amato are a maybe, and we definitely need another healer (I am trying to talk Coranthir into coming (holy paladin)). So we will go with some variation on this lineup, and try to fill gaps as needed.

Amato and Coranda, if you would let me know for sure, that would help my planning.

-Jaba

*Edit* Nevermind. Best of luck, sounds like you're going to need a lot of it.

I'm also trying to make myself available for this if needed. I would prefer to bring Krell, but could be convinced to break out Shantow as Resto if it looks like we need healing. That might be a bit interesting...

I can bring Daichallar if Amato doesn't show up.

Logros Wrote:Eruadan's a no, he doesn't want to get mods.

If TK doesn't happen, and you can't find anyone else, I can bring someone. Can't recall the reset, but could probably bring Dro.

I am going...

You need, need, NEED a handful of certain mods to go to ZA, Euradan. It's a MUST for MANY fights (in Kara you could kind of get away with it, in ZA you CANNOT) and you not having them could very well screw over your entire group. If you are willing to cave in and consider installing these mods, please reply here and I'm sure the lot of us are more than willing to tell you what to go snag for the betterment of your ZA raid (DeadlyBossMods/BigWigs will DEFINIETLY make this list).

Eruadan Wrote:I am going...

Was responding to the edit you had, stating you didn't want to go because of the mods.

I am not having a discussion about mods with anyone on this thread...My attending this raid is between Jabadue and myself...If I was not going my name would not be on his list.

Personally I am tired of being criticized because I dont like them or use them and I hope it never happens again....anywhere. Please respect my choices in this matter.

I hope not to see anything further about my CHOICE not to use a quadrillion mods to play a game. I use ONE, thats more than enough for me.

Thank you.

Eruadan Wrote:I hope not to see anything further about my CHOICE not to use a quadrillion mods to play a game. I use ONE, thats more than enough for me.

Thank you.

Several mods are required for raiding for a reason. Please respect OUR choice about mods which make some of these encounters possible by getting a bare bones set of mods or go play the game solo. That sounds really harsh and I mean it to be harsh because it is selfish what you are saying.